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Is this a hate message? Please read and have your say on the subject -


So I just received this note to my inbox here on DA:

"David you are a blessed young man with TREMENDOUS talent ppl can only hope to aspire to but a spirit that has been hurt by so many ppl over "who you are". If u trusted and believed God like u say you do then trust Him when He says youre sexuality is not okay. u get scared because you dont know howw to"get rid of it" but its a spirit, i garuntee you. A member of a local church i know of had been delivered from that homosexual spirit that plauged Him for years!!! You may think it cant be done but if you believe in Jesus Christ and have accepted Him then there is NOTHING He can't do!!I say this with all the Love in my heart. God wants to bless you and turn you into a message for lost souls all around too^^"


How lovely it is to see that people hid their true thoughts behind compliments and smiley faces...
At the end of the day, actions speak louder than words.

It seems like this the exact reason for why I took on the INRI photo-shoot and the message behind it.
I know my work can be counted for instigating by some, pushing it a step too far - but this what art supposed to be in my eyes. Take thoughts into actions and in the process share the artists truth and point of views, sometimes ones that can't find an outlet in any other way.

What scares me the most in this message I received just now, is the notion that we all need to be the same, in the aspect of not celebrating our uniqueness and individuality.
Now I'm a firm believer that people can change - people can work hard on themselves to change the negative aspect about them: selfishness, intolerance, anger, greediness, lies and all sorts of egocentric action can be changed if we'll work hard on it. But there's another kind change, more in the likes of brain washing. Here, the person who sent the message told me that not only I can change my sexuality but I NEED to change it!

So here's what I think about it - what if there was an option for people to change the colour of their skin in small process and then someone representing a religion of some sort would come and tell you "Hey, I know you are black, but you weren't meant to be that way! Jesus was white and there's a way for you get rid of the colour of your skin, for it is only a bad demon that put you through this... you can change it!" 

Do you see how far a state of mind can get to? A few decades ago a ruler in Germany wanted to do the same thing, create a world where everyone is THE SAME!
This thought process is so distorted! For everyone who believes in Jesus, and especially that person who sent me that message, I want you to read this -
Jesus told us to love our neighbors as ourselves!

If you knew anything about the bible, you'd know that each word was carefully chosen to represent it's truth. The word 'neighbors' is used to signify the ones who are not you, who are different then you! If you'll create a world where everyone is like you, you won't look at your neighbors anymore, but your duplications, your reflections!

It's about time people will realize we are all DIFFERENT and THIS IS WHAT MAKES ALL THE SAME ALREADY!
Stop try changing others - change yourself.

GOD BLESS -
Aemn, אמן.




- INRI -

I've always had faith and believed in something that is greater then our physical existence upon this earth. I always wondered how some people talk about God being here and there, yet if you want to worship God, there's a one place for that - A church, a synagogue, a mosque. I felt as if God was put into a box no matter how beautiful in interior of the box is, it's architecture or grand scale - God was still trapped inside it's walls, owned. In my perspective, no one owns God! No one owns our right to pray, to believe, or disbelieve. No one has a hold on our mind and soul. I see God in the world around me, in the people I interact with, in my friends, in my inspiration and here I wanted to try and portray what is conceived as the iconography of God, of Jesus Christ, or faith, and eventually the common thread of them all - love. The world is full people who use that love as a weapon. Sometimes it feels like I'm being attacked for who I am, for heaving my strong faith, for my sexuality. People don't know how to label me, even with my art - "You should stick with drawing", "draw more girls", "so you're a photographer now, what's next, music?", "You've ruined my childhood", "You're crossing the lines" and what not... I guess that puts fear of the 'unknown' into the minds of some people and they start lashing you up. My only way to fight back is by expressing myself artistically! My art is my freedom to show who I am and what I believe in. It's my freedom to be, to share, to connect to something that is grater then me. This photoshoot took place last year at a studio in the upper-side of Manhattan. While I was doing it didn't know of the things I'll have to face with today, the tests God will put me through.

In a statement released by Madonna regarding her ArtForFreedom project, she wrote the following: "I can not separate the rights of an artist with the rights of a Human Being". In the passed months my artistic rights were violated in ways I can not even begin to describe, and at that moment I felt the exact same pain and hurt as if my basic human rights were taking away from me! Seeing your own art, your own creation, being put on display in manors you did not approve of, in associations to people you do not support or agree with, heaving your own name taken off of it - is just like heaving your own voice taken away from you! Your very soul. You feel castrated out of your own creation, expression, FREEDOM!

This photoshoot speaks about that. It features the beauty that is surfaces deep and the beauty that is hidden deep inside. What attracts us physically and what attracts us spiritually.
Art is always at it's best when it's a collaborative effort. while creating the concept arts for this project, I can across the amazing works of fashion designer Nick Stryker and I knew I must feature his creations on this one. We've had a great meeting in his Brooklyn based apartment and got things going. In between I had to look for some strong artistic individuals who'll be able to bring my vision to life, and I was lucky enough to connect with 3 amazing NY models - Derek, Norb and Steven - each brought a different character to life. And of course no one can go about anything in life without the help of a few friends as well, and I was so blessed to have my talented friend Keenon to be of support and help with the project all the way through.

I thank each and everyone of you who helped me bringing my vision to life, and hope all of you, my followers and watchers will enjoy it, and might even get inspired to believe, to love, and to fight for your artistic freedom!

DK.


Full Credits -
All clothing were designed and hand made by Nick Stryker
Check out his official website for more: www.nickstryker.com ;

PHOTOGRAPHY - David Kawena

FASHION - Nick Stryker
STYLING AND ACCESSORIES - David Kawena/Nick Stryker
MAKE UP AND HAIR - David Kawena
LIGHTS - David Kawena/Keenon Ferrell
PRODUCTION ASSISTANT/PRODUCTION COORDINATOR - Slic Arts
ADDITIONAL ASSISTANCE - KEVIN ATKINS
MODELS - Steven Trumon Gray / Derek Keene / Norb Peti




Please check the new article on "Beautiful Magazine" featuring the 'INRI' photo-shoot, the meaning and story behind it in the following link:
www.beautifulmag.com/beautiful…
and feel free to comment on it (page is NSFW)



A Daily Deviation! I'm so excited!


INRI 19 - by David Kawena by davidkawena
It's been... umm, years since I've got my last Daily Deviation.
I'm very happy and grateful to have one of the pictures from this photoshot
to receive this statues! Thanks a lot to 
DistortedSmile for this.




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lovlinessisme Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Totally agree with you David. But you know how the Bible literally says "If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them."? Does that not totally counter " Love thy neighbor"? How are we supposed to believe in a book that counters what it says? And of course this message will not sit well with everyone and I don't expect it to as this is my opinion. However, a lot of people totally ignore bits and parts of it. They pick and choose what they want to read. The Bible says if there is a homosexual in your area you should stone him or her, or that if a girl is raped it is her fault and she has to marry the guy that raped her. How is that logical? A person isn't just "turned" gay because they have a "demon" inside of them, they were born that way, and there isn't anything wrong with it. And if you think homosexuality is wrong, then to be quite blunt, you are delusional. Sorry if this offends anybody, but I'm not going to answer you if you send me hate mail, so don't even try wasting away your precious time ya haters.
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JeoJo Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2014
Dear DavidKawena,
I love your work! You, my friend, are truly an extraordinary artist! I believe that you should go on doing what you do best, and ignore all the others who oppose you. There is nothing wrong with your sexuality. You are a human with free will and your own beliefs. I don't think it was necessary for this person to go out of there way to push their opinion on you while at the same time covering it compliments, telling you that your sexuality is "wrong". People all have their own beliefs and they like to stick to it. Sometimes they go to lengths that are far beyond where they need to go to prove themselves "right and just". Its a terrible tendency we are prown to. Don't hold it against this person. Remember Karmas a bitch! :)   
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RoamingFirefly Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2013  Professional Filmographer
A bit late to the party, just wandered in because your Disney Heroes collection was being passed around the office the other day. But wow~ I don't know what's scarier: if this person truly believed what they were saying and believed that they were doing a GOOD thing for you by writing this, or if this person is a master of passive-aggressive manipulation and knew exactly what they were doing by writing this. But I just want to say that you are an extremely talented artist, I love your work, and not just because of the sexiness, though the sexiness is awesome too ;) And your art is much appreciated by my coworkers as well :D I know it is hard sometimes to ignore negative comments and messages, but this one is clearly written by a nut-bar and not worth your time and energy. There are many more people in this world, who couldn't care less what anyone's sexuality is, and appreciate you for the person and the artist you are.
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FlickeringShadow Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2013
I don't think it is a hate message as much as someone who just does not understand that you are who you are and there is nothing wrong with that. If it were truly a hate message I believe that there would be some differences in what they were saying, but still I don't believe that they should have sent you that. It is none of their business and you are wonderful just the way you are.
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icyhugs Featured By Owner Nov 14, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Give me a break, I don't think God cares about WHO or WHAT u love, instead He takes so much concern if we have choose love over hate, or the worse: cold ignorance. I adore ur talent David and I am so certain that God loves you for who u r, what u r :) Thank you for the INRI collection :DMystic Rose Stain Glass by icyhugs  
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WarriorNGoddess Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2013  Professional Writer
Your work is gorgeous, your are talented, and your love for men helped lead you to be so incredibly talented with what I, as a straight woman, and several gay men, can all enjoy and drool upon- Lovely, glorious mancandy.
Any loving god, if there is one (and I'm anti-theist, so you need not read anything into this other than what I'm saying)- I repeat, and LOVING god, would not look down on you for loving as you chose, so long as you chose to love.
It's not hard to surmise that this person is from a fundamental, judgmental and obviously unrealistic church/faith.  Unfortunately, when people can be led to extremes (read: you're a homosexual because you have a spirit (demon) inside of you and god is the only way to get it out.  Not just god, but MY god, and MY church), it's very easy to control and manipulate them, get them to give you lots and lots of money.  That kind of mindless following that will believe without questioning...  I'm guessing that's where this person came from.  And though they may mean well, it's his/her own shortcoming that leads to this kind of behavior.


Anyway, I saw your Disney mancandy on the internet and, after wiping off my keyboard, I had to find you.  Mmm... I wish I could do what you do.  I shall have to put you on watch and see if I can learn anything from you.  If you have time, at some point, I'd absolutely love it if you took a bit to look through my dA.  And I'm sure you're far above anything I can afford, but I'd love to see you draw a drow male or two.  Mmm....

Thank you for reading my gibberish.  <3
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bsamneh Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2013
Hey Dave!

well no honestly i dont think its a hate message.
 but as you mentioned earlier art is a way of expression and taking a step further. however not everyone can understand that step taken at the moment (maybe later on in the future they can understand the artwork more, who knows)..but i cld feel the sincerity in the message and there is no hate or anything in it. it's just what the person believes (true or not true), and i guess in his/her opinion trying to lend a helping hand. 
We shld always take everything in the positive sense, whether we think they have a point or not. so wtv.
but nah i dont think its a hate mail.
i miss ur hot princes btw!

Best,
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Robert-Clell-Asher Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2013  Professional General Artist
Oh David!
My Friend, I am so glad you know who you are :hug: and We are all so lucky to have you in our world!
You are firstly an amazing, bright, intelligent human being that has the ability to see beauty where most folk never think to look and pass that beauty on so we can all see it. You share your talent so widely and freely with those folk that will take the time to look. Thank you for that, Thank you for sharing what you see, I think if you, and people with gifts and talents similar to your gifts and talent  didn't do that, we would forget how to look for beauty on our own. I love your art. It speaks to me on every level. Thank you.
I think you are where you are supposed to be in this great wide world. You're on the right row, it may be kinda tough to hoe sometimes with small thinking rocks in the way, but you will always be able to move forward, pen and paper are amazing tools and can get you where you need to be!
Love ya guy, Please don't change!
Asher
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flesheatingmermaid Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I love your work, you know how to capture the sexual essence of men.  

As for this person, they are sadly ignorant.  If this person continues to leave more uncomfortable messages like this, let DA know.  Because this person shouldn't be doing that to you, or any other human being. 

Keep the great work coming!
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Poseidonsky Featured By Owner Oct 31, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
of course its not hate lol
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Michael-McBishie Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
i like to think that the man in the clouds is not against people who felt this way and i like to think that he made them this way too for a good reason.......... i hate it when people try to use religion to control and change people
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EvelenSnape Featured By Owner Oct 29, 2013  Student General Artist
First of all you are an amazing artist and photographer and deserve none of what was just said to you. I really hope you do as many have said, ignore them, they won't make or break you. I wish you well with your project and any more future projects you may come to do. <333333
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blackkiteekat Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2013
That message was absolutely hateful, and you should ignore every word. I know that I am flawed as a person (but certainly not because of my sexuality!) I also know that the people who love me are well-aware of those flaws, and forgive them. They love all of me, they want me to be happy, and they would never ask me to change WHO I AM. I know that your sexual orientation is not a choice, nor is it offensive in the eyes of anyone who truly loves you. Be happy in yourself, because it is what your real friends want for you, and it is nothing less than you deserve. =)
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Miouwwww Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
To be honest...I dont think the writer of the message meant it to be hateful. I think he/she actually believes that it is a "help" to judge and change people. Sigh... i feel sorry for david, that he gets such disturbing messages from weird people. 

But I also feel sorry for the writer of the original message...there is something seriously wrong with his/her mind :/ I view such persons as being mentally ill.
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blackkiteekat Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2013
I suppose they could have meant well, although I find it highly suspect. Some of the real insults are couched in smiley faces and other symbols that seem to say, "No hard feelings." It's passive-aggressive at best, and manipulative at worst.
Admittedly, my judgement in this matter is colored by past experience, but I cannot dismiss the notion that the writer of this message knew exactly how it would come across.
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joeyseti Featured By Owner Nov 3, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I agree, it is not hate. It is genuine, although misguided, advice.

But, it is a small price to pay for notoriety. The message was private; not splashed all over his page.
You're nobody 'till somebody hates you.
For every hater out there, there are a hundred more admirers.
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Loveinglifechic Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I detect a homophobic asshole that likes to give out false friendliness. AKA a total JACKASS!
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Okaysional Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'd say that person was a homophobic douche who needs to fucking learn a thing or two about the bible if they think being gay was a sin. I'm glad you;re so calm about it because I would be so angry
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Minyassa Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I wouldn't call it a hate message. I'd call it the cry of a brainwashed person blindly flailing at what they have been conditioned to think they must do. How very tragic.
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Ishyuki Featured By Owner Oct 28, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I hope you know that you have spent far more time contemplating such subjects than the person who sent you such a thoughtless message.  In my personal experience the kind of people that can blithely say words for God profess endless faith and devotion.  But they can't be bothered to part with a precious handful of hours a month much less week, or daily for study or devotion to the religious texts they should be searching endlessly for knowledge.  

It really boils down to simple truths.  Accept Jesus?  You mean the guy who said (Matt 25:40)  'Inasmuch if ye have done it unto the least of my brethren, ye have done it unto me.'

Or how about 'Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them'  (Matt 7:20)

Or another gem.  'Ye have heard that it hath been said, "Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy." But I say unto you, love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you.' 

I have seen so much hate, and violence, and intolerance.  Such careless words are spoken daily, and the sorrow caused by words and actions like those are simply heartbreaking.  I have never seen a word from Christ commanding me to do anything but to serve the people of the world.  Love them, accept them, and frankly every word cast in condemnation is much like casting a stone.  Who here knows God?  There are many that presume.  

I want you to know that I love your work and your words.  

Never stop.  What you have brought into the world and what you bring to other people is absolutely impossible to measure.   
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Cloudcracker Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
I just read the message you post.  The best thing you can do with this yahoo is delete his message, and do not give it any attention, time or validation.  Shit like that, you just chuckle to yourself and erase.
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GDBoone Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
David,

Your creativity and spirit shine in everything you share.  Some people are truly blessed with the ability to convey the presence of "The Divine" in their work, and you are truly one of those people so blessed.  Divinity, to me, is not tied to a specific religion, god/goddess or belief system.  To see and touch "The Divine" one does not have to visit a church.  Every Art museum, every library, every concert hall, every quiet stretch of nature where all one can hear is the whisper of the wind and the voice of the trees houses The Divine.  Your gift...your beautiful talent is to convey that divinity - the presence of pure creativity and passion -

You give people an opportunity to see creativity and expression in its purest, warmest and most wonderful form through your work.  Creativity, such as yours, is another means that I know that there is more to our existence, and that of our universe, than what can be viewed, quantified and calculated.  Your work stirs emotion, is a feast for the eyes and a means for us to touch "The Divine" and commune with our own muses.

This message wasn't hate - per se.  It was a very sad message.  A person who will not allow themselves to see the joys of the most pure form of divinity - creation - was responsible for writing this.  They should not be hated...rather pitied for having such an empty soul devoid of the ability to see the beauty in all things which surround them.  These are the same people who no longer marvel at the flight of birds, who no longer hear the voices in the wind as it moves through the trees, who have lost the ability to be brought to tears when facing the beauty of a sunset...who have closed off their soul to the radiance that artists, like you, willingly share with the world through your works.

David...you are a treasure - never forget that and never allow others to attempt to dim your radiance.  Continue to be our window to "The Divine".  Those who would seek to tame your spirit to fit within their sad, cold and gray worlds through their misguided ramblings will always be shouted down by those who will always appreciate your world view and the fantastic worlds you allow us to visit through your work.

As always...a devoted fan and fellow traveler.

GDBoone.
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AmberInk Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I don't understand how (most) people who claim to be spreading the love of God succeed in spreading only hate. I'm so sorry you had to be at the end of one these attacks.

~Blessed be.
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noa30 Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2013

ha ha ha oh my God, dont worry about this kind of messages, if you are happy with who you are and you try everyday to be a good person thats all you need to know

God loves you, no matter what choices you made.

like a father with his arms wide open to receive his prodigal son

 

 

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jisunthehorse Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I am really sorry that this has happened to you. I am a Christian, but I do not, for one second, think that God condemns people for their homosexuality. I certainly don't. people are people, regardless of their sexual orientation, race, background, whatever.You are a person of great artistic talent who will go far in life. Don't listen to the people who put you down because what they say about you don't matter. They don't know who as well as you know yourself. As a Christian, I say that God loves all. In his eyes, all of us are equal and beautiful and worthy and precious and perfect. And even not identifying myself as a Christian and just as a human living on this Earth, I'd think that our purpose in life is to make others feel loved and cherished and nurtured, not condemned and punished and feel like they don't belong? Once again, I am so sorry that happened. In my opinion, a Christian is a person who doesn't judge, and that person clearly is judging you when they shouldn't.
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noa30 Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2013
i agree.
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Nativa-Basco Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Seriously? SERIOUSLY?! It's like you said, smiley faces and praises do not make this okay. This person may try to cover it up, but they sir, are an asshole. They have absolutely no place to write this kind of ignorant crap to you. I have been following you on dA for a while and you have created so many works of art filled with happiness, beauty, and love. Not once have I ever seen you writing or drawing something that tried to spread hatred. And yet, for some reason this ******* thinks it's okay to try and bring you down because of your sexuality. I agree with Paddi-Avalon; ignore this person. They are not worth your time or anyone else's time for that matter.
You just keep being you. If there is anyone who should fear "God's wrath" it's the twat who wrote this to you.
We got your back, bro! :)
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Paddi-Avalon Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
just ignore that message. He may believe that he is doing you a favour in his dedication to his fanatic narrow-minded belief, but as you do not share his belief, he is actually saying that you are a freak and that you are not normal. Those kinds of people are sad and full of hatred and their hatred is based on the intelligence level, knowledge and belief through a book that is 2013 years old... Its tragic that so ignorant people still exists in this modern world we live in.

There is nothing wrong with you. You are a talented guy and an inspiration. :)
But don't be angry at him, just pity him and those who share his belief.
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Xai16 Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
You be you, ok. People are going to hate you for any reason: you got those new kickass sneakers, your hair works the way you want it to, you don't like the Beatles (luv those mofos), etc. People cannot function on this planet without hating, myself included. YOUR job is to get yourself 10 more haters each day. If they hate you for being gay, go all out to make them REALLY hate you. You did a decent job above but next time, REALLY put your dick in their sense of logic. Let your sexual preference also be their sanity and REALLY fup it good.
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WoodHelm Featured By Owner Oct 26, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
There is no real faith anymore as far as I see...all nonsense, while being religious to a god can bring many things...but didn't it used to be good now I'm neither religious nor 'atheist’, while I don’t believe in many contemporary gods I know there must be something up/out/down there that does things behind the cosmic scenes… Religion today seems only of war and the cause of it…didn’t it used to be something of inner peace and refuge?

You're too right, we should never change our others, only update ourselves.
It probably is a hate message, just darn weird one.
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darkmiko2003 Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2013   Photographer
I think you're exactly as The Maker wanted you to be. You are a gifted man and your true fans love you!
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Kivuli Featured By Owner Oct 25, 2013
Some people want to make everybody and everything do what they want. And such people don't like when others live their own life. That's all:)
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ImmaculateReprobate Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Jesus was brown
That is all.
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Lathroniel Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
But isn 't the message in the bible one that teaches us that we should love everybody?
The fact sexuality is still seen as something that needs to be "fixed" in the 21st century really angers me, it isn't something that needs to be fixed.. it's a part of who a person is and people shouldn't ever try to change that. You cannot help what sexuality you end up having, it's just how you are born. If you go back in history homosexuality was never considered a sin or "wrong" in civilisations such as greece and rome, so why now? people like this... who try to force their beliefs on others and try to make them change sicken me :I
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galidor Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
People like this make me almost ashamed to be Christian. They seem to forget about the parts of the bible that say, "Love thy neighbor" and "Judge not lest ye be judged". Aside from the fact that God loves EVERYBODY. It's kind of his thing. I just, I really dislike "Christians" like this. They make the rest of us look bad. :|
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Marts-NZ Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
That's just Lamb talk... Its just typical colonialism and the impacts that colonization has on people to comment in such a bizarre manner.. There's an old saying "Allow the so called meek to continually live in their stupidity and confusion"
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ShootingStar03 Featured By Owner Oct 24, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Funny how some people lecture homosexual people like they're being plagued by some kind of "evil spirit" while in truth, they are just don't have the heart to accept that not all are the same.

Whatever man, never stop what you do. You are a talented person and does not seem to be the type who would step on other people and call them names just because they are not what you want them to be.
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jade-beaver Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2013
"homosexual spirit"? ...-sigh- some people...homosexuality is not caused by possession. >< Honestly, people like that are just ignorant, you should just ignore folks like this, they don't know what they're saying. :/ Just be yourself, to hell what anyone tells you!
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queenie-bergie Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2013
I think this person likes your art... however believes you are possessed... that's the surface feelings of course.

I feel it's a backhanded compliment? Or an advert for a local anglican church... :S
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Cl0ver Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2013
Wow... I have been reading through these comments, and your story, and wow... I am so encouraged by your INRI series, AND by some of the comments in response to this "hate" mail. I was raised Christian, and still am very faithful to this day, and I think what that person said to you was completely out of line, no matter if they thought they were "doing it out of love" or not. Your art work and your position are absolutely an inspiration for me. Thank you (and thank many of your followers who have commented on this) for reminding me that there are others out there who understand that God called us to love one another, rather than judge one another. Keep doing what you love, the people you touch with your artwork will far outweigh those who would rather spew hatred and ignorance. Unfortunately those negative voices are often the loudest. 
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NuttyByNature Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Passive-aggression and control issues. Many people of many religions, creeds, and beliefs have these issues and use such tactics to "inspire", "support", and "save" people. They just cannot be at peace unless they change you. It's sick. Thank them, let them know you don't agree, and move on.  
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jevon-taylor Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I would not consider it a hate message; it just has the same effect. 

Personally I try not to engage with people like that, generally they aren't even familiar enough with their own theology to know if they believe in free-will or not.  Asking them to explain why some sections of the old testament are relevant, but not others really ticks them off, and they seem to have voluntarily retarded their faculty for critical thought in the belief that God gave them a brain as a sort of radiator, instead of a thinking device.

Frankly, you're work in the Inri collection makes me uncomfortable, as it seems to be seeking a reconciliation between Christianity and Homosexuality.  I firmly believe that this is a good thing, but I rejected the dogma, and church, of my faith long ago, and it reminds me of the struggles I went through in that process.

Keep up the good work!
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fIOMERA Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
David, dude, trust me show the other cheak and smile, people that dont accept others by who they are dont worth it, as far as I know if you are not hurting other or yourself its not wrong. Be happy just the way you are find the good in yourself and show everyone the good person you are, couse our sexuality dont define anyone, neither our beliefs. Our actions do.
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CarmenFoolHeart Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Your proud attitude is awesome beyond words. Thank you for not taking any crap for your sexuality or your art. This from another person of sexual minority. ;)
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briefbulge Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2013

At first: sorry for my bad english.  I think the bible says, God made the humans in God's own likeness. And who are we to say that God made any mistakes??? wrong colour of skin????? wrong sexuality?????? wrong religion???? I think these are all varieties of our wonderful, coulorful life here on earth! My beloved boyfriend get a very hard desease 4 years ago. Now he is disabled and I have to care about him and all the things around us. his appearance changed, he can't remember things, he can't write anymore, he can't eat alone and so on. But I love him the same I ever did!! I think I got this chance from God...

So David, go on with your fantastic art and love and life!! :hug:

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Badusev Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
Come on, guys. We're in the 21st century A.D., not the 21st century B.C. I can't believe someone's innate, pre-natal, God-given sexuality (or skin color, or sex, or gender, or height, or ethnicity) is still an issue.
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ukrainito Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2013
I'm not sure if it was a HATE message, but it definitely was a BAD GRAMMAR message.
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SarahEsen Featured By Owner Oct 23, 2013   Traditional Artist
You know, I really, really, really dislike people who cannot mind their own business. This person claims to be religious and righteous, yet their action (ie: sending you that email) is a most unreligious thing that they have done.

David, your work is truly great and you have loads of talent. WHY do people have to bring in their narrow-minded opinions and force it on to others? Your gender, ethnicity, sexuality etc is irrevelant and has NOTHING to do with others or your artwork, so that person is obviously here for the wrong reasons, and perhaps they are the ones in need of help the most.

I'm a proud atheist (and I am one because I think critically and make my decisions based on hard, true, factual evidence) yet we atheists also get alot of people like the person in your email come our way.

Keep doing what you do, David :) It is not you with the problem. But thank you for highlighting this issue - hopefully it is a lesson learned to others who cannot mind their own business too.

We need more love in this world, not hate... so, people, stop spreading hate and spread more love :heart:

Sarah xx
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EsebeiDoran Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
That was a subtle "I dislike you, because of what you are" and using God's name to justify that they're right. They're practically using the Lord's name in vain, really, to justify their cause, and to hide their true color and shameless act of aggression.
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mertonparrish Featured By Owner Oct 22, 2013
Stay strong and be yourself, David.  This letter is of the old paradigm that is fading fast.  God is love.  Period.  And love is the only real thing.  Shine the light of love on the darkness and "poof" it disappears!  One day soon, there will only be love, joy, creativity, freedom and peace.  We will celebrate our uniqueness and recognize and embrace our oneness.  Keep on creating and being you.  This person meant well, but sent a very hurtful letter.  Send them love, don't give this letter another thought, and go on being you.  Listen to God and to your muse in your heart... not to misguided words such as are in this letter.

Peace to my brother artist-
Merton





 
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